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MessageSujet: [A venir] Equilibrage des classes   28.12.10 16:37

Ghostcrawler, fameux community manager US, annonce une série de changements dans les prochaines semaines concernant l'équilibrage des classes aussi bien en PvE qu'en PvP. Ci-dessous le post en version intégrale, qui est en anglais. Pour nos franchouillards intégristes, voilà les points importants de la discussion :

- PvE : Hunt survie et Dk unholy ont des dégats trop élevés sur boss poteau. Le dps des mages Arcane et des autres spés du hunt sont trop basses. Ils surveillent également le dps des palret, shadow, et les autres spés du mage car elle semblent un peu basses en dps.
- PvE : Sur les combats à AoE, le dps des Survie, Démono et Dk Frost sont trop haut, alors que celui du Shadow est trop bas.
- PvE : Ils sont satisfaits des tanks et des heals en général.
- PvP : A peu de choses près, ils sont content de ce qu'ils ont fait du PvP, le rythme est ralenti est l'issue du combat ne dépend plus uniquement d'un burst au bon moment.
- PvP : Ils trouvent les prêtres pas assez efficaces, surtout en terme de heal+mobilité.
- Stuff : Ils surveillent les items PvP et la facilité de les acquérir, pour les mettre au même niveau que les items PvE.
- Stats : La maitrise pour les palret et Dk Unholy ne leur plait pas, ils pensent la modifier.
- Stats : Ils ne veulent pas des stats qui ne sont pas intéressantes, les rogues assasinat délaissant le crit et les ours délaissant la hate. ils pensent à revoir les effets de ces stats sur certaines attaques particulières.

S'ensuit quelques changements classe par classes assez mineurs, enfin je crois j'ai lu juste en diagonale. Bonne lecture,

Neth


Ghostcrawler a écrit:
We have a lot of players at 85 now doing everything from Heroic dungeons to rated Battlegrounds, and the class design team is starting to prepare our list of items to investigate for our next patch.

Before you dive down into the meat below (not really a pleasant image, that), be advised that we’re still early in the preliminary stages. The patch isn’t coming out tomorrow. I wrote this before the end of the year and other things may have cropped up in the meantime. Just because your class or pet problem isn’t mentioned below doesn’t mean we won’t address it.

PvE
We’re happy with damage overall. We have very few traditional tank and spank fights (even Argaloth likes to parry melee) so it’s hard to get consistent numbers without very large data sets. Still, we see Survival hunters and Unholy DKs on top of a lot of single target fights. Arcane, Marksman, and Beastmaster damage is too low. Retribution, Shadow, and Fire and Frost mage damage might be too low, but we’re still watching them. We aren’t seeing a lot of Subtlety rogues in PvE yet, so that sample size is still small. On fights where there is a lot of area damage, Demonology warlocks, Frost DKs and possibly Survival hunters are all too high. Shadow priest AE, mostly due to a weak Mind Sear, feels too low.

Healing in PvE is working out pretty much as intended. There are some Heroic dungeon bosses that are probably tougher than the required item level average permits. In general, you might have a tough time upon zoning into a Heroic dungeon with a bunch of strangers as soon as Dungeon Finder permits, especially if your group isn’t willing to communicate and work together. We want Heroics to be challenging -- if you want to zerg the content, stick to normal dungeons.

Tank balance overall seems good at this point in time. Threat seems to be in a good place -- good tanks don’t have much of a problem, but they can’t “phone it in” either. We’re seeing all four tanks get a lot of use, even on Heroic raid fights. That could change as more guilds are able to make serious heroic attempts.

PvP
The larger health pools, decreased impact of Mortal Strike debuffs, and slower healing are all having the desired effect in PvP. Burst damage has its place, but doesn’t determine the outcome of every encounter. There are several individual abilities that we aren’t happy with in PvP.

We’re keeping a close eye on dispels. We still like the design of making dispels more of a commitment rather than liberally sprinkling around dispel resistance or consequences for every class. Defensive dispels (removing a debuff) generally feel good, but we think offensive dispels (removing an enemy buff) feel too powerful, especially for DPS specs. In particular, Purge and Spellsteal will probably get nerfed.

We’re also looking at crowd control, interrupts, and self-healing in PvP. It’s possible we’ll reduce the durations of some crowd control effects, especially the area effect ones, and decrease the duration of interrupts.

Priests are a little weak in PvP, especially at mobile healing. We have made some changes to glyphs and talents to enhance their survivability and instant healing.

We also want to make sure the epic PvP gear isn’t too easy for just anyone to obtain, given that the PvE endgame content is more challenging than it was in Lich King. We don’t want the player base to just migrate to the most efficient epic delivery mechanism; we want you to participate in what you find most enjoyable.

Stats
We’ll make a pass to make stats that aren’t attractive (but are supposed to be) more attractive. For example, we don’t want Assassination rogues to dismiss crit or Feral tanks to dismiss haste. We are considering making some physical attacks such as Lacerate, Steady Shot, and Slam scale with haste.

Mastery is a new stat for us, and there are a few specs that don’t value it enough. In some cases (e.g. Combat rogues), the design for mastery is fine and we just need to buff the effects to make it more desirable. In others, we don’t think it’s possible to buff mastery enough in its current form. For example, the Retribution mastery, Hand of Light, is fun, but it doesn’t contribute enough damage. To make it contribute enough damage, the proc would need a very high chance, which then can cause paladins to devalue other sources of Holy Power. Instead, we are redesigning Retribution mastery to add a percentage of the damage of Templar’s Verdict, Crusader Strike, and Divine Storm as Holy damage (which also plays better with Inqusition). Because Hand of Light is fun, however, we are going to change Divine Purpose as a chance to proc Hand of Light instead of a chance for extra Holy Power (which will also remove a little of the randomness from the rotation). Unholy DKs are another spec for whom mastery just isn’t working out. Our current intent is to redesign their mastery so that their attacks cause more damage to diseased targets (in a similar manner to the Restoration druid mastery).

Potpourri
Some additional class-specific tweaks (keeping in mind this is not the full list):

General

* We’re making some additional buffs, such as Pain Suppression and Barkskin, undispellable.
* We think we overnerfed Every Man for Himself, and are reverting it back to a 2-minute cooldown again. We might evaluate other racials after we’ve seen more PvP.


Death Knight (Forums / Cataclysm Talent Calculator / Beta Skills/Talents)

* We want to make sure Unholy DKs prefer two-handed weapons.
* Necrotic Strike needs to be affected by resilience.
* For Cataclysm, we changed Death Strike almost completely into an ability for Blood DK tanks, which is a bit unfortunate. We want to make sure it is still a useful button for Frost or Unholy DKs who need healing.
* We also want to address DK mobility in PvP.


Druid (Forums / Cataclysm Talent Calculator / Beta Skills/Talents)

* Even after we fixed their mastery, Feral druid bleeds still do a lot of damage and are undispellable. We plan to shift some of that damage back to main attacks. They are also a little too hard to control. Given that they are already hard to root, snare, or polymorph, we think the fear immunity from Berserk is too much.
* We’re buffing Wild Mushroom. It’s a cool spell that isn’t getting enough play.
* Empowered Touch will now benefit from Regrowth as well. We’re also buffing the Glyph of Regrowth.
* We are looking at Holy Concentration (after our most recent buff) and Omen of Clarity to make sure they don’t account for too much mana savings.


Hunter (Forums / Cataclysm Talent Calculator / Beta Skills/Talents)

* As part of the Marks and Beastmaster buffs, we’re buffing Aimed Shot, Kill Shot, Chimera Shot, and Kill Command.


Mage (Forums / Cataclysm Talent Calculator / Beta Skills/Talents)

* To reduce mage control, we are discussing reducing the duration of Frost Nova and Ring of Frost.


Paladin (Forums / Cataclysm Talent Calculator / Beta Skills/Talents)

* Censure will no longer break Repentance.


Priest (Forums / Cataclysm Talent Calculator / Beta Skills/Talents)

* For Holy priests, we’re increasing Chakra’s duration and changing Surge of Light so it can now from Flash Heal and Greater Heal and can crit.


Rogue (Forums / Cataclysm Talent Calculator / Beta Skills/Talents)

* We want to make it clear that Combat is intended to use fast off-hand weapons. We also want to polish Revealing Strike a bit.


Shaman (Forums / Cataclysm Talent Calculator / Beta Skills/Talents)

* We want to make sure Enhancement shaman avoid caster weapons.


Warlock (Forums / Cataclysm Talent Calculator / Beta Skills/Talents)

* We are probably going to remove Drain Mana from warlocks. It is incredibly situational in PvE but causes problems in PvP. This might mean we need to evaluate Mana Burn as well.
* Inferno will no longer increase the radius of Hellfire.
* Shadow and Flame can now proc from Incinerate in addition to Shadow Bolt.
* We want to redesign Improved Soulfire.


Warrior (Forums / Cataclysm Talent Calculator / Beta Skills/Talents)

* Arms warrior burst damage might still be too high in PvP, while we don’t have a great way to adjust their sustained damage for PvE. The Lambs to the Slaughter talent is a good place to address this. We also might nerf warrior stuns.
* We think Arms and Fury warriors are getting too much damage out of Heroic Strike. We want it to be clear that it’s a rage dump and not make it the hardest hitting ability.
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MessageSujet: Re: [A venir] Equilibrage des classes   28.12.10 19:08

Me disais bien que certains n'étaient pas tellement équilibrés dans cette guilde ...



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MessageSujet: Re: [A venir] Equilibrage des classes   29.12.10 9:42

Moi aussi je me disais hum hum ..

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MessageSujet: Re: [A venir] Equilibrage des classes   04.01.11 0:25

Youcadi Ils vont up mon execution et up ma seconde spé que du bonheur =)
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